in., and .1964 sq. The exception to that rule is Hornady’s LeveRevolution ammo line, which uses a pliable tip on a spitzer bullet to afford a much flatter trajectory in both cartridges. To summarize, the .350 Legend, 180 grain load, fits neatly between the Bushmaster and Beowulf loads in velocity, MPBR, and trajectory. These are not included here because the 180 grain load is the best comparison against heavier bullets in the .45 and .50 caliber cartridges; I use one popular bullet weight in those cartridges, as follows. It will handle black bears and feral hogs—as will the .35 Remington—but sourcing ammunition is far easier if you own a good old thutty-thutty. In the lever-action Marlin Model 336, the cartridge became a favorite of eastern deer and bear hunters, giving plenty of knockdown power in a compact and affordable package. The .45 and .50 caliber loads have SDs that fall short of the .200 benchmark. 300 grain FTX: +2.8" (100), -3.1" (175), -20.1" (250), .50 Beowulf, Hdy. Here are the SD numbers for our comparison bullets, in descending order. So what is a 35 Remington?
For old school deer hunters (like me) the lever action is perhaps the best all-around platform for a hunting cartridge. In the deer camp mix of Savage 99s, Marlin 336s and a selection of Winchesters, many cartridges were represented, including some rarities like the .348 Winchester, but the main rivals were the .30-30 Winchester and the .35 Remington. It is also the most important factor when computing kinetic energy. I feel that a +/- 3-inch MPBR is appropriate for rifles used to hunt Class 2 game, including the cartridges being evaluated here.
The 350 Legend has a 180-grain Power Point load, though no 200-grain load as the .35 Remington does. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Winchester touts the .350 Legend as "designed for deer hunting out to 250 yards."
KPS values at the five yard increment closest to each load MPBR are included, to document the power of the loads near the longest range at which a responsible hunter should use them. Rifle cartridges with straight wall cases within the length range specified are not an everyday commodity. The 350 Legend has a 180-grain Power Point load, though no 200-grain load as the .35 Remington does. Classic lever-action deer rifles are undoubtedly cool. and 23.1 ft.
A longer, smaller diameter projectile penetrates better than a shorter, fatter projectile of the same weight and construction, which only makes sense. Friday, June 22, 2018.
Obviously, to kill cleanly, any hunting bullet must penetrate into the animal's vitals, so hunting bullet SD is important.
If you were to vote for the .30-30 Winchester based on its higher Sectional Density values—the 170-grain .308 bullet has an S.D.
It was a gift from my father for my 15th birthday, and—at least to the young man who received it—marked a passage into manhood. Winchester has published some vague promotional material with numbers that suggest that the .350 Legend generates about 12 percent lower recoil than a .30-30.
Bullets from the three cartridges being evaluated, fired at a target within 200 yards, will go to ground by the time they fly 300 yards or less downrange. Note that all five loads, sighted-in for +/- 3 inch MPBR, shoot right at three inches high at 100 yards. Trajectory matters, because the flatter a bullet flies the easier it is to hit a target down range. Let’s take a look at the two champions of the deer woods, and perhaps finish the conversation started three-plus decades ago. (Formerly 'shotguns only,' I believe, for deer hunting.)". It wasn't and isn’t a long-range cartridge, but at distances inside of 125 to 150 yards, the .35 Remington surely gets the job done.
Winchester notes, "several other firearm manufacturers are gearing up" to produce rifles chambered in .350 Legend. The most significant thing about these numbers is that trajectory of all loads deteriorates quickly at ranges beyond 200 yards, with bullet drop at 250 yards roughly three to four times that at 200 yards, for all loads. The straight-wall, rimless design requires that the cartridge headspaces off of the case mouth—much like a .45 ACP or 9mm Luger—but the use of spitzer bullets certainly gives an advantage out beyond the 100-yard mark.
The characteristics compared include velocity and energy, maximum point blank range and far zero, trajectory, sectional density, killing power and recoil.
It has accounted for almost all, if not all, North American game species, and the famous African PH Wally Johnson used one to kill lions in his early years in Mozambique. All rights reserved. By comparison, recoil of the .450 Bushmaster and .50 Beowulf loads calculate as 19.5 ft. lbs.
These numbers clearly show that the Legend is a powder puff, compared with the heavy recoiling .45- and .50- caliber cartridges.
The Deer Season XP load from Winchester, using the 150-grain load at 2325 fps still has 903 ft.-lbs.
Dubbed by Winchester as the “fastest straight-walled hunting cartridge in the world,” the 350 Legend certainly seems to be designed to fill a particular role in those states which limit big-game hunters to straight-walled rifle cartridges. of energy at 200 yards, dropping 7.5 inches when using a 100-yard zero. Driving a 160-grain jacketed bullet to a velocity of just over 2300 fps, it represented a fantastic hunting cartridge for its time. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? The results are clear. I am a firm believer in sighting-in hunting rifles and loads for maximum point blank range.
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(I base this on the far zero ranges of the loads, as detailed above.). Bullets for .35 Remington would have been a good match for the .350 LGND. = 47.5; KPS at 190 yds. These, though, are powerful handgun cartridges that have found something of a second home in rifles, rather than being designed from the ground up as rifle cartridges.
They've adopted the straight wall cartridge as the alternative to a shotgun or pistol. (The .458 SOCOM is not included in this comparison, because its case is not straight walled.). Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win.
But, there is an issue: It seems the .35 Remington ammunition has begun to fade away. Mag. Friday, May 17, 2019. The loads are listed in descending order of their MV.
Alongside the .25, .30 and .32 Remington, the .35 would be the only survivor. While it has been chambered in many different rifles, the combination of the Marlin Model 336 rifle and the .35 Remington has achieved true classic status, in spite of the fact that the rifle was introduced 1948.
300 grain FTX: KPS at 100 yds. Various systems have been created to estimate the killing power of rifle cartridges, with varying results in terms of accuracy. I, too, have lived and hunted only in areas where normal game hunting cartridges are legal, so I am also baffled by these regulations. We've got you covered.• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Any short-action platform that handles the .223 Remington can be easily reworked to handle the .350 Legend cartridge.
figures for our comparison loads at the muzzle, 100 yards and at the 5 yard increment nearest to maximum point blank range (see below).
However, even after 123 years on the market, the .30-30 Winchester remains the king of medium caliber lever guns; it has been in the top ten selling cartridges for Federal Premium to this day, and with millions of rifles out there chambered for the cartridge, that will probably be a fact decades from now. With the traditional loads, the .30-30 will drive its 150- and 170-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 2400 and 2250 fps respectively, while the .35 Remington launches its 180- and 200-grain bullets at 2100 and 2080 fps. Using the same case head diameter of the .223 Remington at a length of 1.71-inch, the 350 Legend uses a .357-inch diameter bullet, for a combination that is very easy on the shoulder while being effective downrange. My first was a Winchester Model 94AE XTR in .30-30 Winchester, that timeless rimmed cartridge that has accounted for innumerable amounts of game. Sectional density (SD) is the ratio of a bullet's weight in pounds to the square of its diameter in inches.
I calculated the killing power of these loads at 100 yards, as most whitetail deer, blacktail deer and feral hogs are killed at 100 yards or less. vs. .300 Win.
by Philip Massaro - These three cartridges are birds of a feather, in that they are straight wall case designs, sized to function in AR-15 rifle platforms. Only a handful of them are any good for hunting, but the medium caliber .350 Legend may be one that prospers, not only in restricted cartridge areas, but in general. Presently, the .350 Legend, .450 Bushmaster, and .50 Beowulf are the only short (1.8 inches or shorter) commercial straight wall rifle cartridges, so are of prime interest to those who hunt in the jurisdictions noted above, plus anyone who may be interested in hunting with an AR-15 rifle chambered in a medium or large bore cartridge.
The .35 Remington load using the 150-grain Core-Lokt obtains just about the same muzzle velocity, with a bullet having a lower B.C.
The KPS scores of the Beowulf and Bushmaster loads indicate that they are suitable for use against Class 3 game.
(I say this even though I have carried compact, short-action bolt rifles on the majority of my deer hunts.) My argument is that a prudent and responsible hunter should never attempt a shot at a game animal beyond the MPBR of the cartridge/load being used (and closer is always better).
Like any inquisitive young man, I delved into the history and nostalgia of the .30 WCF, or .30-30, and the many names it has carried, and was honored to take my first deer—a whitetail doe—with the same cartridge that my father took his. However, I caution against making too much of this, given the submarginal sectional densities of the .45 and .50 caliber bullets. Winchester has also announced 150 and 160 grain hunting loads for the .350 Legend.